tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post1832580101458339486..comments2024-02-19T05:18:27.849-05:00Comments on <center>the Q at Parkside</center>: Conflicting Views On Nabe ChangeClarkson FlatBedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13463744536115119388noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-68155531632959150542014-01-10T05:32:53.183-05:002014-01-10T05:32:53.183-05:00Quite late in the discussion, but I must ask, what...Quite late in the discussion, but I must ask, what amenities are available in Park Slope, Windsor Terrace and Prospect Heights that are not available here in PLG?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08502295913313611169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-56407942120477064452013-12-14T08:36:15.355-05:002013-12-14T08:36:15.355-05:00For those interested in my removal of the last com...For those interested in my removal of the last comment, the gist was this: longtime renters should have bought when prices were dirt cheap. Then there was a little dig that ensured his comment would be taken down no matter what his point.<br /><br />To those who haven't even a bank account and rely on check cashing places and money orders, yeah, what were you thinking? And to the others who were busy just getting by raising families, you should have bought on Maple! Lovely block that...Clarkson FlatBedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13463744536115119388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-14453507478211046882013-12-14T04:23:00.884-05:002013-12-14T04:23:00.884-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-46631041674057840312013-12-11T21:41:39.512-05:002013-12-11T21:41:39.512-05:00Where would we all be without are standard 15.6% a...Where would we all be without are standard 15.6% annual cost of living raises? Yikes!<br /><br />I'm starting to feel we can forget about gradual change. We may just shoot right past whatever comfortable co-existence there might be between old and new. It's kind of like when you're trying to put that perfect buzz on, but dang it you shoot right past it and end up drunk.<br /><br />Clarkson FlatBedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13463744536115119388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-44398707923907488172013-12-11T21:35:37.807-05:002013-12-11T21:35:37.807-05:00Rents are still increasing in Brooklyn, with the b...Rents are still increasing in Brooklyn, with the biggest increases happening in formerly affordable areas such as Bed Stuy and Bushwick, according to two reports out today.<br /><br />In Bed Stuy, average rents were up 15.6 percent to $1,835 in November, vs. $1,587 in the same period last year, according to MNS. Over in Bushwick, average rents increased 13.5 percent in the same period, rising from $1,849 to $2,099.Clarkson FlatBedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13463744536115119388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-60725241595293358052013-12-11T21:27:05.153-05:002013-12-11T21:27:05.153-05:00Super Paul. Thank you!
And we'll be sure to p...Super Paul. Thank you!<br /><br />And we'll be sure to place your name atop the atrium of the Lefferts Opera House. I do hope you'll chair our gala again this year!Clarkson FlatBedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13463744536115119388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-79832331091800411602013-12-11T20:14:08.327-05:002013-12-11T20:14:08.327-05:00Well, high density apartment housing near mass tra...Well, high density apartment housing near mass transit is more ecologically sensible than low-rise, single family homes. So one could argue that supporters of 626's large size represent a more eco-conscious (lefty) position than those who point to PLG's already high density as a reason to oppose the project. <br /><br />Worry not comrade Thomas, we will reserve a space for you in the politburo.<br /><br />-Paul G.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-12016085981875838722013-12-11T18:00:39.818-05:002013-12-11T18:00:39.818-05:00Skew. Skewing to the right of the population of Fl...Skew. Skewing to the right of the population of Flatbush in general. The city is basically all Democrats. Most people describe themselves as liberal. In the PPEN pro and con, which position would you call the more liberal one? I would argue the anti big money developer one. You might feel differently. I've noted what I might call a "skewing" in favor of the project on the blog. Therefore I've concluded, at least on this issue, a skewing right. Not right-wing. Just a rightward tilt.<br /><br />I stand by the analysis. I'm not calling anybody names, just like I see it.<br /><br />By the way, Pol Pot was also considered far left, so you needed hear "left" and consider it all sweetness and light either. It's got a pretty agreed upon definition though, usually MORE egalitarian/socialist is left. Am I totally off the mark?Clarkson FlatBedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13463744536115119388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-51143274138288536942013-12-11T17:06:00.614-05:002013-12-11T17:06:00.614-05:00Tim - skewing right and being middle class are waa...Tim - skewing right and being middle class are waaaay different things. I happen to know several of the folks who have commented here in favor of 626, and to call them "liberals" would be a gross understatement.<br /><br />Please don't let the two anon commenters you identified represent the rest of us.<br /><br />-BGAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-65644858954234721992013-12-11T16:33:28.751-05:002013-12-11T16:33:28.751-05:00As if it matters WHY someone buys or rents a place...As if it matters WHY someone buys or rents a place in PLG. All that matters is the direction demand is heading. The individual rationalizations have no meaning when it comes to moving the needle on the NY City real estate meter.<br /><br />However, it's a sure thing that no one living in the area or planning to move to the area is hoping for or predicting a downturn.<br /><br />Meanwhile, before moving to PLG everyone made a financial decision that it was the place to go. That PLG filled the bill.<br /><br /> As if finding a good real estate value -- determined by personal circumstances -- because it's in an area that might evolve into a place with some cachet is a troubling idea.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-5848029524601486322013-12-11T15:05:07.225-05:002013-12-11T15:05:07.225-05:00Anon 2:54.
Um, okay.
Have me over dinner sometim...Anon 2:54.<br /><br />Um, okay.<br /><br />Have me over dinner sometime? Got a business idea I want to pitch...<br /><br />QClarkson FlatBedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13463744536115119388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-24134708046236108012013-12-11T14:58:09.387-05:002013-12-11T14:58:09.387-05:00Well, you're right about one thing. It's M...Well, you're right about one thing. It's MY blog!<br /><br />Seriously though it's not your comment or Lifetime's I'm talking about here. It's the last anon's. I understand that you and others want to assert a different viewpoint into the mix, and that's cool, and I encourage folks to go back to the whole drawn out thread if they want to see everything. I chose those comments for context, and yes, to prove a point, that there are those out there who a) believe like Lifetime and b) believe like Anon1155. BUT of course there are those who believe like c) believe like that Lyndon Larouche- Thomas Sowell wannabe or d) believe like Diak and so on and so on.<br /><br />No one likes being typecast.<br /><br />But I know for a fact that my blog skews right (does that come as a shock to some of you?), or middle class anyway, and at best I'm trying to keep another view in the public eye because I think it gets lost when development happens. As much as I respect Butler and Brownstoner, I don't think we need any more of the real estate rah rah...it's done its job quite well thank you, and I'd like to see a bit more balance.<br /><br />A reader has offered to intro me to David Kramer at Hudson and I hope to have that opportunity, because if I could share a message right now it'd be that his PR machine sucks, and he could have done a much better job of being a community partner. But then I suspect he'd have opened himself up to compromises he didn't want to make. I dunno. I'm not a real estate dude.<br /><br /><br />Clarkson FlatBedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13463744536115119388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-82682003702450796062013-12-11T14:54:47.291-05:002013-12-11T14:54:47.291-05:00I am not Anon 1155 but I can echo his/her sentimen...I am not Anon 1155 but I can echo his/her sentiments verbatim. I could've afforded to live anywhere else in this borough or city, and actually owned elsewhere before buying here. And buying here because we found our ideal house here. And saw the potential of what this neighborhood could be, and would be in 5 years time, given it's proximity to the park and ease of commute to manhattan. And there are many more people who've moved here recently and not so recently who feel this same way. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-77470058762919442322013-12-11T14:44:02.152-05:002013-12-11T14:44:02.152-05:00Mr. CF, I think you are cherry-picking the comment...Mr. CF, I think you are cherry-picking the comments that serve your point best. (Well, it's your right; it's your blog!) There were clearly comments in the original post that directly contradicted "Lifetime"s assertions. (Since I've been ordered to "loosen up" I'll use "assertions" this time instead of "accusations.") Mine, Bob Marvin's, cheryl on parkside, plus a couple from the always-voluable anonymous.<br /><br />Instead, you've chosen to refocus on a single commenter who "proves" Lifetime's stance. This doesn't seem like an entirely honest representation of the numerous viewpoints that were expressed.diaknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-41804094725292654772013-12-11T12:30:31.350-05:002013-12-11T12:30:31.350-05:00Alright, well, I didn't read it that way, and ...Alright, well, I didn't read it that way, and I still don't think anyone is trying to speak for everyone.Alexnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-61760377252154514802013-12-11T12:27:37.437-05:002013-12-11T12:27:37.437-05:00Alex, I think you missed the point of my post comp...Alex, I think you missed the point of my post completely - the posts that were highlighted in this main article were by someone who specifically (and explicitly) was saying that most people (not just them - but most) who settled here SETTLED here because they couldn't afford elsewhere. As my comments were a direct response to that, I stand by my point that those posters (see again the comments highlighted in this post and many of them in the article that lead to this) were making blanket statements and I'm telling them directly that their blankets are full of holes.<br /><br />-Anon1152Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-77125369665394130332013-12-11T12:25:27.426-05:002013-12-11T12:25:27.426-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Maximushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11411989761047206803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-67276841504567511462013-12-11T12:16:11.202-05:002013-12-11T12:16:11.202-05:00sorry, i will be known as anon1155 going forward
...sorry, i will be known as anon1155 going forward <br /><br />I can afford to buy the same size house anywhere I want in Brooklyn. I chose to do so here because I think it makes a lot more sense from a relative value standpoint and to put the rest of my money to work in other assets.<br /><br />I bought and moved here knowing full well what I did and did not like about the neighborhood.<br /><br />Im not looking for anyone to "solve my problems" or to make the neighborhood "whiter and richer" as you incorrectly inferred. Not sure how me hoping that some of the development will make things safer and bring more amenities that I drive over to park slope for makes me want to change the entire racial and socioeconomic makeup of the neighborhood. <br /><br />I admire your commitment to changing things at the community activism level and wish I had the resources to help on that front, but that doesn't preclude me from also welcoming another agent of change via development. <br /><br />I am not solely for replacement over improvement. There is a middle ground where someone can support both, which is where I stand, without being labelled with your matter of fact inferences. <br /><br />I apologize for not highlighting the businesses that fall under the ones deserving of support, but there are plenty that I support and frequent regularly in the neighborhood, but that does not change the fact that there are some elements of Flatbush that i dont particularly care for. <br /><br />anon1155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-78852298086128382012013-12-11T12:10:13.177-05:002013-12-11T12:10:13.177-05:00Anon 11:52, you're perpetuating the type of de...Anon 11:52, you're perpetuating the type of defensiveness that Q is trying to mitigate. No one is trying to speak for you. Whether you agree with some, all, or none of the sentiments being expressed, they all exist, and no one is trying to say that there's a unified opinion on how the neighborhood will, should, or might change. You've asked that people speak for themselves, and from what I can tell, that's what they are doing.<br /><br />Personally, I am smack in the middle of the polarized views being shared. I've lived here for almost 10 years, and I came here "prospecting" (dirty word, but I'll cop to it because it's true) for a solid investment in a home that would appreciate over time, and also hoped to see more amenities spring up in the neighborhood.<br /><br />At this point, I would still like to see more amenities, but I am also concerned about displacement and losing the neighborhood's feel. I grew to like PLG how it was when I first arrived. That being said, I am anxious about the type of changes that 33 Lincoln, 626 Flatbush, and 123 Parkside will bring to the neighborhood because I find it exciting in terms of benefits they might bring and nervous about negative consequences. In saying so, I am expressing my own view - not yours, not anyone else's. Love the neighborhood as it is, love my neighbors, love my apartment, and I'd love to have more options for dinner and shopping outside my door.<br />Alexnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-66118790894488145042013-12-11T11:52:35.752-05:002013-12-11T11:52:35.752-05:00I just am appalled by some of those attitudes, tho...I just am appalled by some of those attitudes, though. <br /><br />Some of us, like, oh, me, could have gone to many other places and sought out a place like PLG specifically because I wanted a certain experience that reminded me of my childhood in NYC and Brooklyn, not whatever was happening in Williamsburg and Park Slope. I wanted a neighborhood that felt like a neighborhood, where I noticed people knew each other and said hello, and that is exactly what I found in PLG despite the occasionally dangerous street corners. I have been here now for many, many years.<br /><br />So while I "pity" (just kidding I don't) those of you who were "stuck settling on PLG", please speak only for yourselves. There are plenty of us who have the means or resources to go elsewhere and came SPECIFICALLY here and have CHOSEN to stay because we actually DO love PLG and the folks that have made this place what it is. NOT because we "went where we could afford".<br /><br />Thank you kindly in advance.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-4071026130197594102013-12-11T11:44:28.971-05:002013-12-11T11:44:28.971-05:00Good food for thought here, Tim. Part of the insan...Good food for thought here, Tim. Part of the insanity that is Brooklyn real estate right now is that most people who are fortunate enough to buy are just looking for somewhere nice to raise their kids. People with the means to choose Park Slope or Fort Greene will buy there, and those of comparatively lesser, but still vast, means will buy in places like our nabe, the so-called "unexplored" neighborhoods. (Does it get more colonial?)But to question whether such newcomers will really "get it" and love the neighborhood for what it is smacks to me of so much "before it was cool" boasting. The important thing, as I've said many a time, is that you can choose to be a part of your community or you can complain about it. But have some humility; acknowledge those who have come before you and what they have won, and lost, since.The Snobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08651104992931398542noreply@blogger.com