tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post807739659060893135..comments2024-02-19T05:18:27.849-05:00Comments on <center>the Q at Parkside</center>: How To Buy KingsClarkson FlatBedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13463744536115119388noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-33252621680561892802016-10-26T17:31:25.120-04:002016-10-26T17:31:25.120-04:00Lately I've been feeling that the Kings' p...Lately I've been feeling that the Kings' performance schedule isn't as varied as it could be. .. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-16190834129477042892015-09-03T09:19:02.929-04:002015-09-03T09:19:02.929-04:00Ernie: The reason I'm talking about it at all ...Ernie: The reason I'm talking about it at all is because no one IS thinking out of the box. They think they can apply a national model to NYC. I want this thing to succeed, but frankly I don't even think it needs to be a for-profit enterprise to make it. My guess is it will be bounced around from one owner to another until people figure it out what is and isn't possible. Why not think creatively NOW?<br /><br />My other prediction? Same thing with Lakeside. They are not making money yet, and I suspect the City will have to step in at some point. Services will suffer, and less people will go. I'm tellin' ya's I've lived through enough of this boom and bust stuff to see it coming. The Alliance is frankly ill-equipped to deal with this at all, and there's tension a-brewin' behind the scenes.Clarkson FlatBedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13463744536115119388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-59103994675907176792015-09-03T09:14:22.278-04:002015-09-03T09:14:22.278-04:00Oh screw it - why try and do anything out of the b...Oh screw it - why try and do anything out of the box? Tear it down and make it high rise condos. Will everyone be happy then? Ernie Ernhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04351987849940902735noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-37194786240173554452015-09-02T17:20:15.257-04:002015-09-02T17:20:15.257-04:00You need to create a niche. And the price of a tic...You need to create a niche. And the price of a ticket reflects the cost of the talent. Promoters take baths on popular acts all the time. It's gonna take whip smart programming and marketing to make that place profitable. Flatbush can't compete against Manhattan where your market is the whole metropolitan area. I love the optimism, but the last few months prove how hard its gonna be. I promise you they came nowhere near covering expenses. Clarkson FlatBedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13463744536115119388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-20628505745671868162015-09-02T15:38:32.833-04:002015-09-02T15:38:32.833-04:00Not sure what you are implying. That Ace was losi...Not sure what you are implying. That Ace was losing money with Kings and had to get out? I think the opposite is true. Ace created a great asset that is ready for a producer who knows what they are doing and can bring greater resources to the venue. Ace just didnt sell the Kings, it sold the whole company and its five theaters to ATG, a huge international company. <br /><br />This venue does not need to be filled every night to make money. As you note, most of the staff is part time. They have quite a few events over the next few months (10 in September, 7 in October, 10 in November, etc.) and many tickets are in the $50+. Turning this into a weekend family movie palace is a sure way to run it into the ground again. bored at workhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07463347390373738994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-60247249483494939272015-09-02T14:55:29.674-04:002015-09-02T14:55:29.674-04:00Anon 11:28 Ma, I told you not to bother me when I&...Anon 11:28 Ma, I told you not to bother me when I'm blogging!!Clarkson FlatBedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13463744536115119388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-55064494799894177062015-09-02T13:56:40.870-04:002015-09-02T13:56:40.870-04:00re: "blah blah, don't u have something be...re: "blah blah, don't u have something better to talk about?"<br /><br />Anonymous @11:28 am - You must be new here. mug of meadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00512712592642543320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-22823092928054410582015-09-02T09:42:51.483-04:002015-09-02T09:42:51.483-04:00The question isn't are there shows that Babs w...The question isn't are there shows that Babs would go to. It's are there 3,000 Babses on a regular basis.<br /><br />I say no. The only way to make this place profitable is to do something regularly, that becomes sort of a see-and-be-seen event. Like classic, cult and big premiere movies with stars whenever possible. Like if you do Sound of Music, have some of the original stars show up. And for Rocky Horror or Car Wash or Coming to America. You know?<br /><br />Yes occasionally a big ethnically popular star will work. There are fewer of those than you think. And the space is already crowded, with other venues vying for top acts. And booking organizations that specialize in world acts. It's not that this theater couldn't do well in another city. It just can't in NEW YORK city. Not with polyglot programming without an identity.<br /><br />As to profit being made by EDC or others, that would be the best possible outcome. Taxpayers repaid. But the bigger question is how to keep this place from falling into disrepair and neglect AGAIN. And that takes a bold, successful plan. And while Ambassador is successful in its other endeavors and has deep pockets, that doesn't automatically translate into butts in seats.<br /><br />Clarkson FlatBedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13463744536115119388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-60066599733344326352015-09-02T09:08:34.055-04:002015-09-02T09:08:34.055-04:00Most touring productions of Bway shows are scaled...Most touring productions of Bway shows are scaled-down to fit smaller theaters. I'm fine with that, assuming the prices are scaled-down as well. And the upside? No throngs of slow-moving tourists and aggressive Elmos and their ilk.babshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08365488181982105888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-41159416527713539012015-09-01T19:33:07.533-04:002015-09-01T19:33:07.533-04:00I don't know if they are set up for a full Bro...I don't know if they are set up for a full Broadway show - you need certain rigging and lighting in place which I'm not sure this theater has. <br />But I would love to see something like one of the new Star Wars movies here. The Pavillion is closing indefinitely. There will be no theaters between BAM and Sheepshead Bay. <br />Brooklyn has 2.5 million people, and this theater is well-positioned geographically to serve at least half of that. Anybody who is far away from all the theaters near BAM and Barclays center. There's no reason that it won't succeed if they manage it correctly. Cantorial concerts? Reggae? ( I know they've already had several Caribbean nights) Chinese pop stars? <br />I recently went to see a Mexican banda in Queens at La Boom. Sold out, 1000 people, packed house, tickets were $75. They could easily do that at Kings Theater with a big Mexican star. Jacobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-29121394350509168022015-09-01T18:24:27.912-04:002015-09-01T18:24:27.912-04:00What is missing from the article, is the city'...What is missing from the article, is the city's share of the sales price. Readers may not be aware that NYC (via the ESDC) paid for a large share of the renovation costs.<br /><br />The City gained ownership of the theater back when it fell into tax arrears.<br /><br /> MikeFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12947132324744364565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-41766046489285808282015-09-01T14:05:15.409-04:002015-09-01T14:05:15.409-04:00Pie in the sky? I don't think so. The very art...Pie in the sky? I don't think so. The very article you linked to would seem to contradict that:<br /><br />The Ambassador Theatre Group is a UK company (although majority owned by a RI-based private equity firm), the leading owner of live-theater venues in the UK in fact, including 12 theaters in London's West End. The Broadway theater they own is the Lyric Theater, currently showing "On the Town" (which theater friends of mine tell me is a great show), which is the second-largest theater on Broadway (I added those last details; they weren't in the article.).<br /><br />The group also produces or co-produces about 35 shows a year, including, most recently, "The King and I" and "Jersey Boys," as well as the UK premiere of "The Book of Mormon." They also have a ticketing operation that issues over 11 million tickets a year (think of that fee revenue). <br /><br />The co-CEOs (husband and wife) were listed as the most powerful people in British theatre (to give it the proper spelling) by The Stage magazine in January of this year (over Andrew Lloyd Webber). Check out what The Stage had to say about this "pie-in-the sky producer" "ATG has built itself a seemingly unassailable position in the industry, with fingers in practically every conceivable pie, from venue management to production to ticketing." Here's the link to that article: https://www.thestage.co.uk/news/2015/stage-100-1-5/<br /><br />In short, it sounds like these guys know very much what they're doing and have pretty deep pockets. I think this is good news - looking forward to more and better-quality entertainment (I would love to see a Broadway show without having to go to Times Square and pay hundreds of dollars).babshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08365488181982105888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-70904574935054220232015-09-01T12:55:17.920-04:002015-09-01T12:55:17.920-04:00Kings Theatre home of the 2015 National Beard &...Kings Theatre home of the 2015 National Beard & Moustache Championships<br /><br />http://www.kingstheatre.com/shows/2015-national-beard-moustache-championships<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com