tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post4869315162041547959..comments2024-02-19T05:18:27.849-05:00Comments on <center>the Q at Parkside</center>: Mike's International Becomes...Clarkson FlatBedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13463744536115119388noreply@blogger.comBlogger57125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-72293631975159701282012-11-02T12:13:28.362-04:002012-11-02T12:13:28.362-04:00I actually really liked the food at Blue Roost. O...I actually really liked the food at Blue Roost. One time, I was eating in there though and overheard the two employees talking--not at all discreetly--about how they hated working there. Not exactly something you want to hear from people serving you food. Also, every time I came home after a long day at work in midtown, and craved some dinner from Blue Roost, it was already closed for the evening! It seems a missed opportunity to tap into all the commuters coming home at the end of the day. Fishin' Shrimp seems to have that one figured out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-54643875021955113992012-11-02T09:08:42.157-04:002012-11-02T09:08:42.157-04:00I wholeheartedly agree about Blue Roost. Their ser...I wholeheartedly agree about Blue Roost. Their service was so nonchalant and rude. Good riddance to Blue Roost and their owners. I really hope they never attempt a food business or for that matter any type of business again!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-10399239221417899862012-11-02T07:41:08.180-04:002012-11-02T07:41:08.180-04:00Let me make this clear: Blue Roost went out of bus...Let me make this clear: Blue Roost went out of business not because there wasn't enought of a community to support it, but because it was a terrible place run by morons. If an actual good restaurant opened in the old Mike's space, people would support it. Blue Roost sucked and was run by people who knew nothing about running a food business in New York City. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-23395949340683026902012-10-24T11:46:49.774-04:002012-10-24T11:46:49.774-04:00I would join the group if it would do what is fina...I would join the group if it would do what is finally going to work for the unique circumstance we have in PLG. I do know about PLUS but from what I heard that group was held back by maybe being big and clunky, seeking grants for a salary for the person heading up the effort. We don't need grants to do outreach to all appropriate potential businesses and outreach to the absentee landlords. That's team volunteer time. If a group claims to represent all the interests of a neighborhood in order to get aforementioned funding then it opens itself up to protest and argument. Like the silly assertion Caribbean people don't like good coffee and bagels, or sit-down places to eat. Plainly the trolls here have never been to Lincoln Park Tavern or they'd see a very diverse clientele. The group would need to be small, nimble and be able to do their work without all the sturm und drang and obstacles that opening up to public opinion creates.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-362970934258241772012-10-22T10:13:26.820-04:002012-10-22T10:13:26.820-04:00I'm also interested in helping out if there is...I'm also interested in helping out if there is a new neighborhood group to try to lure in new businesses. I'll give my email address to Tim as well...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-2700285726195857142012-10-21T13:07:49.046-04:002012-10-21T13:07:49.046-04:00Start by getting my email address from Tim so that...Start by getting my email address from Tim so that we can talk offline, or share your email address.Alexnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-28965488035758928652012-10-21T12:49:16.979-04:002012-10-21T12:49:16.979-04:00Anon 11:16, some of the story of the rise and fall...Anon 11:16, some of the story of the rise and fall of PLUS (Prospect Lefferts United for Services) was covered in The Q just about a year ago: http://theqatparkside.blogspot.com/2011_11_01_archive.htmlCeelledeenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-57661563660733700792012-10-21T12:33:50.274-04:002012-10-21T12:33:50.274-04:00Anon 11:16 and Alex, I'm in full throttle for ...Anon 11:16 and Alex, I'm in full throttle for starting a neighborhood group that actually focuses on bringing new businesses here. I've heard many times about PLUS, but that was a long time ago, and there are many new people here and some old timers I suspect too, that want to make this happen. For real. Because right this minute I"m thinking about where to go to lunch and I"m quite annoyed that I have to pull out my car to make this happen. I can't even get a fresh bagel and a latte here...<br /><br />So how do we start? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-40793846997784909852012-10-21T11:44:24.535-04:002012-10-21T11:44:24.535-04:00Anon 11:16, you are correct in thinking that the c...Anon 11:16, you are correct in thinking that the community should get involved, but it is incorrect that there has never been a small group that tried . PLUS tried and was actually very well on its way toward creating a BID, but some board members had a very sudden change of heart on the subject of mission and dismantled the whole group by way of deciding to rescind a grant from the city. I know because I was there!<br /><br />I encourage you to start up a new group, and I would be happy to share some advice and help get you off the ground. I do not want to publish my email address here, but Tim has it. Wouild be helpful if you published your name here so that I know it's you writing!Alexnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-46701180292773733672012-10-21T11:16:42.794-04:002012-10-21T11:16:42.794-04:00We deserve this. There has never been an organized...We deserve this. There has never been an organized effort even by a small group to develop the commercial area of Flatbush here. Anytime a discussion starts, SOME people jump in with a total distraction that ends the discussion by introducing an argument we should be focusing on Rogers Ave before we focus on Flatbush. Which is 100% wrong. Lakeside visitors are not going to walk 3 long avenue blocks to restaurants. They'll just walk back to Park Slope -- same distance. We who want improvements in offerings on Flatbush live here too, doesn't matter how long, we are homeowners and tax payers, so if we want to encourage businesses to come to Flatbush we can. We don't need everybody's permission and we don't need consensus. Let's do it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-43124391624092610512012-10-21T10:39:56.571-04:002012-10-21T10:39:56.571-04:00Here is a depressing thought.. . with Fulton Mall...Here is a depressing thought.. . with Fulton Mall being upscaled by the city, will the non-upscale business being forced out look for space on our stretch of Flatbush? Pains me to think of the possibilities... Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-77915889759200006732012-10-21T10:34:12.460-04:002012-10-21T10:34:12.460-04:00Better than it sitting vacant, I guess. Really de...Better than it sitting vacant, I guess. Really depressing to know that the landlords are still being short sighted and preventing the neighborhood from attracting more diverse businesses.<br /><br />Maybe the new building on Lincoln, once built, will help move things along in a positive direction.Alexnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-88477055764552953362012-10-20T21:23:17.237-04:002012-10-20T21:23:17.237-04:00The landlord (actually the 2 landlords, since the ...The landlord (actually the 2 landlords, since the building has been sold since Mike's closed) held out exclusively for someone who would pay the outrageous rent they were demanding. Many people made offers for less money but were turned down. Unless this place does a bang up job it won't be there long either, but st least the storefront will have been opened up.babshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08365488181982105888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-45447216483044521712012-10-20T20:01:38.187-04:002012-10-20T20:01:38.187-04:00I hear you Michele and I agree with you 100%. (I a...I hear you Michele and I agree with you 100%. (I also hope you weren't serious about having moved out of the neighborhood!) But, yes, on the serious side, I think this place is doomed to be yet another beauty supply store. I walked by the construction site just this afternoon and looked at the DOB signs. Sure enough, one of them says the permits are for a "beauty supply." Sigh.<br /><br />Although I have long advocated for the community to support existing businesses, as well as new ones, I have also been a consistent champion of entrepreneurial diversity. And, even though I am also an educated woman of color with natural hair who has lived here a very long time, it is my firm opinion that yet another beauty supply store does nothing to advance the latter aim. :-( Ceelledeenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-32294653851514151862012-10-20T16:58:38.514-04:002012-10-20T16:58:38.514-04:00If the landlord held onto Mike's empty space f...If the landlord held onto Mike's empty space for all these years to turn into another hair supply store then I will be happy I moved out of neighborhood. Seriously as someone who has lived in the neighborhood since she was 9, as an educated person of color with natural hair and decent salary (to speak to all back and forth on the comments on who lives here) I much rather see almost ANYTHING than another hair supply store of any kind. I can make a list of things I think could benefit the neighborhood: community center, bookstore, florist, restaurant, small quality grocery store. I just wish I had the background, energy and money to open my own store because I would love to take action and not just complain. But seriously I hope a beauty supply store is not opening.Michelehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15880116341451692872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-24336796577573142162012-10-20T11:36:19.634-04:002012-10-20T11:36:19.634-04:00The one encouraging thing I got from those Yelp re...The one encouraging thing I got from those Yelp reviews is that they have a good selection of products for people with natural hair - I have a few friends in the area who have complained that all the salons and stores in the neighborhood cater nearly-exclusively to people with processed hair.babshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08365488181982105888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-35936892800339546262012-10-20T11:33:47.697-04:002012-10-20T11:33:47.697-04:00I think they are one and the same - there's on...I think they are one and the same - there's one in Jamaica listed as Beauty Feel Supply, but the photo of the sign is the same as Feel Beauty Supply on Fulton St downtown. BTW, here are some Yelp reviews of the Fulton St store: http://www.yelp.com/biz/feel-beauty-supply-brooklynbabshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08365488181982105888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-73348793647437931422012-10-19T21:06:33.121-04:002012-10-19T21:06:33.121-04:00Wonder if they're The same as Feel Beauty Supp...Wonder if they're The same as Feel Beauty Supply? If so, they already have 5 stores in the metro area including one on Flatbush near Ave H.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-83767343013105581422012-10-19T19:45:25.841-04:002012-10-19T19:45:25.841-04:00According to the DOB the sign will read: Beauty Fe...According to the DOB the sign will read: Beauty Feel Supply.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-13802747978159767252012-10-19T15:38:52.598-04:002012-10-19T15:38:52.598-04:00Lest there be any confusion,the "KitchenWishi...Lest there be any confusion,the "KitchenWishin" post of 3:32 p.m. belongs to Ceelledee. :-)Ceelledeenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-3460589829536767232012-10-19T15:32:42.491-04:002012-10-19T15:32:42.491-04:00Progress4PLG: Don't kid yourself. I don'...Progress4PLG: Don't kid yourself. I don't loathe you. How can I? I don't even know you. In fact, for all I know, you may be just a kid with a keyboard, spouting crap from the safety of a basement somewhere. So, not to worry. I am not wasting any energy in loathing you, nor losing my "minds" over you. Not one iota. <br />What I do loathe, though, is when the culture of the blogosphere turns from the civil sharing of truly diverse viewpoints and collegial, spirited debate to trollery, snarkism and just plain out ignorance. It's one thing to express a contrary and/or unpopular view in an anonymous, online public forum. Such views, when offered up with a bit of intelligence, reason and diplomacy (also known as common sense), can oftentimes stimulate a vigorous and productive exchange. But it's a whole other thing to enter a public forum, such as this, to proceed to completely trash the majority population, suggest they get out of the way for you, and expect not to elicit some rather indignant, responses. So, no Progress4PLG, I don't loathe you. Rather, what I loathe is the cowardice you display in posting ignorant, inflammatory and patently divisive comments to a blog.(Especially when that blog is authored by one of the most civil, intelligent, CREATIVE and honest citizens of Planet PLG I know.) And, most especially, when we both know that, IRL, you wouldn't have the nerve to say these same things to the "low-skilled, “so-called 'working poor'” who comprise the masses of this beloved, shared community. <br />ceelledeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02716220481694328089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-44398771699945794922012-10-19T13:45:02.776-04:002012-10-19T13:45:02.776-04:00Gentrification flame war! I'm going to make so...Gentrification flame war! I'm going to make some artisanal popcorn, brb.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-42261396975359146922012-10-19T11:47:34.375-04:002012-10-19T11:47:34.375-04:00Can't help it, must feed the trolls.
Sorry, a...Can't help it, must feed the trolls.<br /><br />Sorry, anon 10:37 - look up the census data. This is still an overwhelmingly poor to lower middle class neighborhood - despite what anon 9:07 may feel is an influx of people more deserving of this neighborhood than "the poor people, the druggies and drunks hanging out and taking up valuable real estate here." Perhaps anon 9:07 is right - we should create strict criteria for those allowed to live in the valuable real estate of PLG. Perhaps we should round up these folks who have everything "handed" to them and deport them to an area more deserving - would East New York work for you? Then we'll have lots of free space for the educated artistic types you so desire - a glorious Williamsburg on Prospect Park.<br /><br />Disgusting.<br /><br />BTW, I'm one of those white, educated artistic types you feel deserve to be here - and I want nothing to do with your sad ideology.<br /><br />-Paul GAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-76925949670955846822012-10-19T10:48:12.889-04:002012-10-19T10:48:12.889-04:00One cannot "support" a store if none of ...One cannot "support" a store if none of the products are of personal use to the prospective customer. Anon 10:25, I get your point, but there is nothing wrong with wanting some businesses to cater to a minority if they believe it makes sense from a business perspective. Do you have a problem with Play Kids on Flatbush? Does that suit your definition of what is appropriate for the population here, or should they not operate a business in the neighorhood even though they feel it's a good way for them to make a living?<br /><br />Businesses are born out of free enterpise and entrepeneurship, and not necessarily a desire to serve a specific minority or majority. Take vegan restaurants, for example - clearly, vegans are not the majority anywhere, but there are enough around to sustain multiple vegan establishments, and sometimes non-vegans are in the mood for it, so usually non-vegans don't get all up in arms if a vegan establishment opens because it doesn't suit the majority. There's nothing wrong with a beauty supply shop per se, but there is a minority that wants to spend their money locally and there's no credible reason (sociological or otherwise) for businesses serving the minority not to locate and potentially thrive in our hood.<br /><br />And, as mentioned previously, there are TONS of beauty oriented establishments. There is no short supply for people looking for those services.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-30247422581698768492012-10-19T10:37:14.042-04:002012-10-19T10:37:14.042-04:00Anon 10:25 the reason you say you still
See a pred...Anon 10:25 the reason you say you still<br />See a predominantly Carribean population is because they are the ones hanging out and walking on Flatbush Ave. the so called new comers leave first thing in the morning for work and stay away all day and into the evening. On weekends you don't see these people because correct there are no services for them. We are getting in our cars or subway and going to other neighborhoods for coffee and bagels and brunch. There's plenty of hipsters and young college educated people moving here and lots of us in the houses too. We just have no reason to be out and about here- so you don't see us. Stand by the subway from 5pm - 9 pm and count all the people with whole foods and trader joes bags and you'll be astonished that nobody has capitalized on this growing population. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com