tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post5136715434341949733..comments2024-02-19T05:18:27.849-05:00Comments on <center>the Q at Parkside</center>: Old Gray Lady Descends From Above To Lend Patrician Perspective On ShootingsClarkson FlatBedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13463744536115119388noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-45732151907950110922013-06-08T09:41:41.759-04:002013-06-08T09:41:41.759-04:00The Bloods and Crips will soon realize that they a...The Bloods and Crips will soon realize that they are now banging heads with the most ruthless crew in New York City - <br /><br />The SDWPWKWSSOESSREIBGLs don't play. <br /><br />For those without Nat Geo, these are the Surprisingly Dogged White People Who Spent a Shitload on Slightly Speculative Real Estate in Fringe Brooklyn Neighborhoods Gangster Lunatics.<br /><br />They're undefeated.<br /><br />They don't wear colored flags. Their methods are creepily cheerful - sometimes they signal a renewed offensive by having their children -their own children! set up lemonade stands.turk473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-72180721286334429522013-06-07T23:50:04.102-04:002013-06-07T23:50:04.102-04:00That's why I don't read the Times. Is that...That's why I don't read the Times. Is that a good thing? <br /><br />Anyway, NYC gang culture today is a mixed bag, compared to what it was during 80's or 90's. Today, it's all about forming smaller sects. Not some much emphasis on colors, although it does matter with certain gangs. These guys, like every other gang, are fighting over territory, money owed or what someone said on facebook. Some of them are violent while others are not. Bloods and Crips are so 90's.<br /><br /><br /> As for the recent shootings, I don't what the hell is going on. Anomaly, maybe. We'll see as summer approaches and how cops handle certain troubled hot spots. They known who the troublemakers are.<br /><br />Does PLG have a community based project like SOS in Crown Heights? <br /><br />bklyn85noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-16820322175427729272013-06-07T22:53:57.620-04:002013-06-07T22:53:57.620-04:00I agree JDB and anon at 9:53. I don't see the ...I agree JDB and anon at 9:53. I don't see the NYT article as flattering. I don't like being portrayed as uncaring. Saying Lenox is outside our neighborhood is like saying 2nd street in Park Slope is outside those on Berkeley Place's neighborhood, come on. And there absolutely have been shootings on Manor blocks. Not all shootings result in people being hit, thank God. As a Manor homeowner I don't want to be portrayed as somebody who thinks of those outside Manor blocks as separate and alien and not of my concern.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-18455784037461255782013-06-07T21:53:27.226-04:002013-06-07T21:53:27.226-04:00I moved to the neighborhood two years ago and am s...I moved to the neighborhood two years ago and am sad to say I have only recently gotten into reading this blog on a regular basis. I find it informative and generally a great source for multi-faceted issues. <br /><br />JDB said it - I, too, was surprised by the way the neighborhood was painted in the Times, and I'm not sure if in a good way or bad way. <br /><br />I think you officially have a new recruit for neighborhood activism, so thank you, and keep posting - I love reading! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-37918473486997069992013-06-07T21:03:07.242-04:002013-06-07T21:03:07.242-04:00the voice over is ridiculously cheesy and over-the...the voice over is ridiculously cheesy and over-the-top-dramatic, but actually the content is pretty accurate. But yes, out-dated. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-32695182834329318072013-06-07T20:56:07.642-04:002013-06-07T20:56:07.642-04:00PSA: That is the worst piece of sensationalist gar...PSA: That is the worst piece of sensationalist garbage I have seen in a long, long time. Plus it's about incidents that happened 15 years ago. Ugh.Clarkson FlatBedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13463744536115119388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-74052564167974939212013-06-07T20:50:09.765-04:002013-06-07T20:50:09.765-04:00Actually, it's East Coast Bloods. Though, it&#...Actually, it's East Coast Bloods. Though, it's talks about Bloods in NY.PSAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-21838101055872035682013-06-07T20:40:41.240-04:002013-06-07T20:40:41.240-04:00This is 4:55. The District Attorneys, police, and...This is 4:55. The District Attorneys, police, and corrections people in NYC just had their annual gang conference a few weeks ago. When you meet, you guys should ask the DA for the paperback book that got distributed there, it is full of illustrations of various things, code phrasing, graffiti tags, etc. I am NOT the person to talk on the subject, but there are people in NYPD and DOC Gang Intelligence units who apparently know a lot. I can vouch for the fact there were an enormous and horrifying number of slashings last summer at Rikers, and I think that sweeping people off the street and to Rikers does little good to combat this. The inside is connected to the outside. And etc. I have no idea what the answer is, and I basically think about it all day. It is depressing. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-17267739529018298952013-06-07T20:33:44.603-04:002013-06-07T20:33:44.603-04:00Here's a documentary about the Bloods gang of ...Here's a documentary about the Bloods gang of NY. If you are interested, check it out. It's very informative.<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPHTdcGGIQM<br /><br /><br />PSAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-39968275234099266102013-06-07T20:24:24.520-04:002013-06-07T20:24:24.520-04:004:55 - Seriously I would love a lesson from you on...4:55 - Seriously I would love a lesson from you on exactly how to recognize a gang member...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-34940256612549235162013-06-07T19:59:05.435-04:002013-06-07T19:59:05.435-04:00Thanks for the reality check, 4:55 from somebody w...Thanks for the reality check, 4:55 from somebody who actually knows something about the topic. I don't see the humor about gangs either. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-689020849724225262013-06-07T16:55:59.735-04:002013-06-07T16:55:59.735-04:00I work on rikers. Bloods are red. Crips are rare...I work on rikers. Bloods are red. Crips are rarer, but yes they wear blue. Bloods also wear the red bandana or beads. And sometimes have a tattoo or cigarette burn of 3 dots, sort of like a paw. There are many sects within the bloods in nyc, and often vies for status within and between bloods lead to shootings (or slashing while at rikers, across the cheek or the back.) none of this is particularly humorous to me these days. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-52746017373282794412013-06-07T16:43:22.903-04:002013-06-07T16:43:22.903-04:00At least the rusted toilet bowl fills 15,000 seats...At least the rusted toilet bowl fills 15,000 seats on a regular basis, then flushes them out through a fairly efficient sewer/train network.<br /><br />I just can't imagine how you can program, as the propaganda told us, 3000 seats 200+ nights a year in the middle of nowhere. Yes, of course, it's a wonderful neighborhood, but as an arts manager I have serious doubts about the potential. Ask the Brooklyn Performing Arts Center at Brooklyn College how easy it is to program their space...and they do maybe 40 events a year or so?<br /><br />Clarkson FlatBedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13463744536115119388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-48613354737509070512013-06-07T16:34:16.447-04:002013-06-07T16:34:16.447-04:00Plus, before rattling off info about who is doing ...Plus, before rattling off info about who is doing the shooting and why, please consider finding out whether the recent shootings have all been gang related? I think you'll find that they are not.<br /><br />I would hate to think that this blog would start an epidemic of misinformed rumor. Don't get me wrong, there are kids in gangs all right. But now people are starting to write comments that sound hysterical.<br /><br />I think it's time that I speak to a gang specialist and write a blog post on that. I'm super busy til after the 18th or so, but let's get someone in who knows what they're talking about. Or if someone has a link to some truly researched piece on NYC gang culture, please leave it here.Clarkson FlatBedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13463744536115119388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-73433892907575320592013-06-07T16:28:49.445-04:002013-06-07T16:28:49.445-04:00sorry. my joke landed like a lead balloon. the blu...sorry. my joke landed like a lead balloon. the bluebloods in westchester are the ones I'm worried about.<br /><br />thanks for that last person's reminder that looking for colors is preposterous. I really hope that people aren't seriously considering spending their time trying to figure out whether it's crips or bloods on their street. the fear that's out there now will only intensify. please, let's have some perspective!<br />Clarkson FlatBedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13463744536115119388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-71747536502717856612013-06-07T15:34:24.666-04:002013-06-07T15:34:24.666-04:00Not that it matters because they do switch it up, ...Not that it matters because they do switch it up, and I don't know much about the gang organization in our neighborhood. But traditionally, Bloods wear red and Crips wear blue, not the other way around, as you stated. <br /><br />But anyway, in our neighborhood there are so many kids running around wearing red it's not that helpful to look out for red sneakers and hats. It's more important to pay attention to demeanor and activity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-63457512852178246712013-06-07T15:21:23.020-04:002013-06-07T15:21:23.020-04:00Yes Q, Babs is correct, bloods are definitely wear...Yes Q, Babs is correct, bloods are definitely wearing red and crips are in blue. From my perspective the explosion of these two gangs in recent years in brooklyn is a huge factor in gun violence in flatbush, crown heights, etc. Years ago there were more local NY gangs, and Latin Kings. Bloods and crips was more of a west coast thing, and seemed to be made up of older guys who had been in prison. In say the last 5 - 10 years it seems to be that a lot of really young kids are into the bloods and crips thing and they seem to be the most trigger happy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-88352039342973830792013-06-07T14:59:57.496-04:002013-06-07T14:59:57.496-04:00I would rather pay for the restoration of a glorio...I would rather pay for the restoration of a glorious movie palace than for the construction of a giant rusted toilet bowl at the intersection of Flatbush and Atlantic...babshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08365488181982105888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-34707032149093424482013-06-07T14:58:10.708-04:002013-06-07T14:58:10.708-04:00Not as far as I've always heard (and read): ht...Not as far as I've always heard (and read): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloods<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crips<br /><br />You could get yourself hurt making a mistake like that!<br /><br />babshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08365488181982105888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-8821479881987928692013-06-07T14:54:18.926-04:002013-06-07T14:54:18.926-04:00The theater was basically given away by the Bloomb...The theater was basically given away by the Bloomberg administration. The city is paying for almost the entire renovation and lending the developers the rest. And then the developers are being given complete ownership of the facility for their trouble.<br /><br />The risk is entirely on the taxpayers if there is not a sufficient demand for the space.<br /><br />Most people have applauded the restoration of the theater however it was a complete raw deal for the community. Almost identical projects have succeeded in Chicago and in other cities, while retaining ownership for the people.Sethnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-5747186271013978542013-06-07T14:48:48.189-04:002013-06-07T14:48:48.189-04:00FYI: Bloods are Blue; Crips are Red. I learned to ...FYI: Bloods are Blue; Crips are Red. I learned to remember it by using the mnemonic Blueblood.Clarkson FlatBedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13463744536115119388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-65543552073357869572013-06-07T13:58:27.598-04:002013-06-07T13:58:27.598-04:00Owner: So nice to see you again.
Actually, you do...Owner: So nice to see you again.<br /><br />Actually, you do have to commit a crime or be a material part of the running of a crime ring. Being a guy who happens to say he's a member of a gang does not put you in prison. That's what most of these guys on the street are.<br /><br />More to the point, the gang guy at the district's attorney will tell you that RICO is not how you break up street gangs, which if you bothered to read the thread is what we're talking about.<br /><br />Television has done a number on you, my old arch-nemesis.<br /><br />The gangs are generally protected by law, until they break the law. So there.<br /><br /><br /><br />Clarkson FlatBedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13463744536115119388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-50827905322243573642013-06-07T13:49:21.763-04:002013-06-07T13:49:21.763-04:00clarkson says:
Being in the gang is not a crime. ...clarkson says:<br /><br /><i>Being in the gang is not a crime. We do have a Constitution after all. You have to actually commit a crime to go to jail. </i><br /><br />Hmmm. Yes, being part of a criminal enterprise, a criminal conspiracy, is a crime, though John Gotti, if he were alive, wouldn't admit it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-35810869126264599572013-06-07T13:44:19.865-04:002013-06-07T13:44:19.865-04:00Yep. And everyone jumped down my throat when I sai...Yep. And everyone jumped down my throat when I said they're going to have a heckuva time making ends meet with a 3,000 seat theater in the middle of Flatbush. But the developers will have cashed their checks by then...Clarkson FlatBedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13463744536115119388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1541468051247516447.post-82821540674026159732013-06-07T13:38:52.887-04:002013-06-07T13:38:52.887-04:00The renovation of the Loew's theater was cover...The renovation of the Loew's theater was covered, probably by the Times, a couple of years ago, when the plan was set for approval. <br /><br />After cutting through the convoluted explanation of the funding, it became clear the developer behind the renovation had secured himself a sweetheart, risk-free deal financed by taxpayers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com