(for those for whom the Parkside Q is their hometrain)
News and Nonsense from the Brooklyn neighborhood of Lefferts and environs, or more specifically a neighborhood once known as Melrose Park. Sometimes called Lefferts Gardens. Or Prospect-Lefferts Gardens. Or PLG. Or North Flatbush. Or Caledonia (west of Ocean). Or West Pigtown. Across From Park Slope. Under Crown Heights. Near Drummer's Grove. The Side of the Park With the McDonalds. Jackie Robinson Town. Home of Lefferts Manor. West Wingate. Near Kings County Hospital. Or if you're coming from the airport in taxi, maybe just Flatbush is best.
Thursday, January 15, 2015
Lefferts Quiz
So, who recognizes the following and where it is. Pic one is of the construction to date, pic two is the new rendering, courtesy of Stephen Smith and YIMBY:
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Helps that parts of both street signs are in the picture. ;) Hawthorne and New York Avenues.
i do! New York Ave, near Fenimore i think? I saw it this past weekend when on a walk to Wingate park. hello living guy strikes again. Part of me feels okay with it though because that particular intersection is pretty sad? the building across the street from it is literally completely destroyed and empty and i have no idea what's happening to it. will all the new hello living residents be moving into the sight of a sad husk of a building across the street? or do the developers know something we don't?
on the other hand, i used to live around Washington/Pacific, near a cluster of hello living projects and boy are they ugly
Although I haven't been back home in quite a few years and not sure if memory serves correctly or not but I would have to agree with babs. Definitely not in PLG. But, then again, we could be wrong I guess huh?
I remember walking past the construction workers drilling holes for the support beams in the summer of last year as I walked from SUNY Downstate to Mama Louisa's for some eggplant parm.
Seriously, good eggplant parm at Mama Louisa's, but expect a ~20 minute wait for a sandwich near lunchtime.
Wait, I think I'm missing the point of this post.....
Okay, Babs. So if the east side of NY Ave isn't in Lefferts Gardens, or "PLG" if you must, then does that mean that Kings County Nurseries is in East Flatbush? Pigtown?
And what about my friends who live across the street from me on Clarkson. They're in another precinct and community district. Does that mean we live in different neighborhoods?
I think there needs to be a PLGNA summit, bringing experts on the various blocks at the fringes of quote PLG to determine decisively what is allowed and what is not allowed to invoke the Lefferts name. Sort of PLG's Yalta.
In that sprit, perhaps we can carve out a Lefferts area out of East Flatbush, like West Berlin out of East Germany?
The occupied West Bank (a/k/a Ocean Avenue) has clearly been absorbed by the greater Leffertsionism. But the Gaza Strip, I mean Caledonia, remains disputed territory. I believe it's time to consider either a two-neighborhood solution, or reevaluate whether Lefferts is in fact stable enough to consider a secular overhaul of its constitution. I fear that if we don't do the leg work, world powers like YIMBY and The Real Deal may define our territory for us, leading to an escalation of the current conflict.
I've never been sure about the east side of New York Avenue and Tim's argument about the south side of Clarkson is a good one. FWIW we've had houses on that side of Clarkson on the PLG House Tour. In any case I'd hate to concede Kings County Nursery and Mama Louise's to another neighborhood :-)
Not THAT new; the name was made up c. 1968. The name Lefferts Manor is only 50 years older, having only been coined after the Lefferts family sold its last lot and a new entity had to be formed to defend the single-family covenant.
I've never thought of those two businesses as PLG, which doesn't lower my appreciation of them at all. And the south side of Clarkson is (and has been since the boundary was extended from Parkside, sometime in 1980s I believe), despite the different police precinct, zip code, and CB.
It's just like all the idiots calling 22nd St "South Slope," when anyone from Park Slope knows that the south Slope starts at 9th St (and ends at 16th St).
Now more than ever we need to be vigilant in preserving our neighborhood's boundaries in the face of the speculative real estate onslaught.
Extended from Winthrop Street, and in the early '70s, shortly before I moved here. When I lived in Park Slope (1970 'till I bought my house here) the south Slope ended at 15th Street. Everything south of that was called Windsor Terrace, on BOTH sides of Prospect Park West (9th Ave. to the natives). I agree about the idiocy of calling 22nd St. "South Slope".
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Helps that parts of both street signs are in the picture. ;) Hawthorne and New York Avenues.
i do! New York Ave, near Fenimore i think? I saw it this past weekend when on a walk to Wingate park. hello living guy strikes again. Part of me feels okay with it though because that particular intersection is pretty sad? the building across the street from it is literally completely destroyed and empty and i have no idea what's happening to it. will all the new hello living residents be moving into the sight of a sad husk of a building across the street? or do the developers know something we don't?
on the other hand, i used to live around Washington/Pacific, near a cluster of hello living projects and boy are they ugly
Not in PLG. East side of NY Ave.
Although I haven't been back home in quite a few years and not sure if memory serves correctly or not but I would have to agree with babs. Definitely not in PLG. But, then again, we could be wrong I guess huh?
Wait, that's retail on the first floor? Who on Earth does a rendering and shows closed shops? That's something beyond lazy...
I remember walking past the construction workers drilling holes for the support beams in the summer of last year as I walked from SUNY Downstate to Mama Louisa's for some eggplant parm.
Seriously, good eggplant parm at Mama Louisa's, but expect a ~20 minute wait for a sandwich near lunchtime.
Wait, I think I'm missing the point of this post.....
Okay, Babs. So if the east side of NY Ave isn't in Lefferts Gardens, or "PLG" if you must, then does that mean that Kings County Nurseries is in East Flatbush? Pigtown?
And what about my friends who live across the street from me on Clarkson. They're in another precinct and community district. Does that mean we live in different neighborhoods?
I think there needs to be a PLGNA summit, bringing experts on the various blocks at the fringes of quote PLG to determine decisively what is allowed and what is not allowed to invoke the Lefferts name. Sort of PLG's Yalta.
In that sprit, perhaps we can carve out a Lefferts area out of East Flatbush, like West Berlin out of East Germany?
The occupied West Bank (a/k/a Ocean Avenue) has clearly been absorbed by the greater Leffertsionism. But the Gaza Strip, I mean Caledonia, remains disputed territory. I believe it's time to consider either a two-neighborhood solution, or reevaluate whether Lefferts is in fact stable enough to consider a secular overhaul of its constitution. I fear that if we don't do the leg work, world powers like YIMBY and The Real Deal may define our territory for us, leading to an escalation of the current conflict.
Let the bloodshed stop here.
live on Lenox Road and Nostrand that is East Flatbush. However a building on Linden is promoting itself as PLG. PLG is new to all Native Brooklynites.
I've never been sure about the east side of New York Avenue and Tim's argument about the south side of Clarkson is a good one. FWIW we've had houses on that side of Clarkson on the PLG House Tour. In any case I'd hate to concede Kings County Nursery and Mama Louise's to another neighborhood :-)
"PLG is new to all Native Brooklynites"
Not THAT new; the name was made up c. 1968. The name Lefferts Manor is only 50 years older, having only been coined after the Lefferts family sold its last lot and a new entity had to be formed to defend the single-family covenant.
I've never thought of those two businesses as PLG, which doesn't lower my appreciation of them at all. And the south side of Clarkson is (and has been since the boundary was extended from Parkside, sometime in 1980s I believe), despite the different police precinct, zip code, and CB.
It's just like all the idiots calling 22nd St "South Slope," when anyone from Park Slope knows that the south Slope starts at 9th St (and ends at 16th St).
Now more than ever we need to be vigilant in preserving our neighborhood's boundaries in the face of the speculative real estate onslaught.
Babs,
Extended from Winthrop Street, and in the early '70s, shortly before I moved here. When I lived in Park Slope (1970 'till I bought my house here) the south Slope ended at 15th Street. Everything south of that was called Windsor Terrace, on BOTH sides of Prospect Park West (9th Ave. to the natives). I agree about the idiocy of calling 22nd St. "South Slope".
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